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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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... Yes; since v105, Chromium comes with its own Cert Store, making it on par with the Mozilla family of browsers (i.e. Firefox); a few related articles returned by a simple G-search: https://www.androidpolice.com/google-chrome-105-firefox-root-store-certificate/ https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/root-ca-policy/ Source code of the Chromium Cert Store: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/net/data/ssl/chrome_root_store/root_store.md In fact, latest Supermium v126-r5 comes with an internal flag (#cert-management-v2-ui) which, when enabled (and browser relaunched), provides GUI access (by the user) to the Cert Store itself via internal page "chrome://settings/certificates" :
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Thorium (legacy) v122 and, likewise, Supermium v122 are the last versions not tainted with anything CR2023 related ; starting with Sm-v124, CR2023 "curves", icons, color schemes are already sneaking in ; and Sm-v126 is just full of them, even when all CR2023 flags have been disabled; my OCD suffers when I have explicitly opted for "classic" GUI features (omnibox, trapezoidal tabs, etc.) only to be infuriated by CR2023 elements still present! However, I'm not dissing the (forked) browser author(s) (since Google are to blame, again); at the end of the day, I need a working browser the most, I can teach myself (or not? ) to just ignore (small) GUI annoyances... Chrome is at 132-something, the web engine of Th/Sm-v122 will be deprecated by Google soon-ish ...
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Very indebted for this prompt fix ; highly appreciated! I can confirm a "Country" account setting has reappeared inside my profile config: https://msfn.org/board/settings/country/ (you need to be logged-in, of course !) So I gave it some ; FTR, last night (in my timezone, GMT+0200) flags hadn't yet returned to all "known" places, but as I type this everything looks OK (apart from some members having now changed their previous flag , e.g. Karla (Sleutel) has now become a Canadian? ) ... Long live MSFN forums!
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There used to be a setting in one's profile to "hide" one's country flag (the default being to display the flag); see this past post of mine ; "Country-flag" related previous thread (now LOCKED) in this forum: https://msfn.org/board/topic/181239-missing-country-flags-under-members-avatars/ Currently, no flag settings at all inside my profile ; FWIW, the flag resources are still there in "their place" ; dearest @xper , would it be at all possible to reinstate this MSFN feature, please (and those members who are secretive can always hide their country of origin) ? ... Kindest regards .
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... For WinXP users, the main thing is the return of the "tab search" button: Of course, r5 contains additional security patches, but having been an MSFN member for so long I realise this isn't a "top priority" reason to upgrade for users of EoL'ed WinOSes (myself included ) ... All the best !
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Thank you ever so much (though the 4Shared link works fine in my location, too ); BTW, "Python 3.8.1350 For XP.7z" seems kinda wrong; I would settle myself for just 3.8.13 as the CPython version; if "3.8.1350" was meant to denote "file version" of python.exe. pythonw.exe, python3.dll and python38.dll, am afraid all four display their file version as "3.8.13150(.1013)" ... Cheers ...
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Possibly slightly off-topic here, but I, too, was using above userscript (in Violentmonkey, in Serpent 52) ; it used to work on both the (bloated) desktop YT GUI and the mobile YT GUI, too (via that Fx WE) ; well, the userscript can be now considered "a thing of the past", as a result of the ruthless war Google unleashed against YT-specific scripts/extensions/downloader apps, etc. A month or so ago Google changed radically the way their fragmented streams (MPEG-DASH) are being delivered to "web" clients (browsers); each fragment is now "POST-requested" instead of "GET-requested" and, additionally, each fragment URI is now being "protected" by a PO (point-of-origin) token, unique to the browser YT session; that change alone BROKE practically all downloader usercripts for browsers (e.g. Youtube Links) and SYTARB suffered the same blow, in that adaptive age-gated streams were impossible now to "unblock"; to add insult to injury, Google have also removed the most popular "progressive download" format 22 (premuxed, standalone MP4 container with h264@720p25+aac@128k), so the userscript could, at best, unblock just the lowly format 18 (progressive, h264@360p25) ... However, it appears that even that is now out of reach, because the "age-verified-YT-account-proxy", the back-bone of the userscript (and of a specialised yt-dlp plugin) has been taken DOWN ca. 2wks ago (supposedly the hosting agreement expired ); you can read more at the userscript's GitHub issue tracker ; with Google even patching the only known "hack" (tv_embedded client) to bypass age-gated videos, it's now IMPOSSIBLE to view/download age-restricted YT videos without an age-verified YT account... I have never had a Google account myself and I'm not inclined on creating one now just for the sake of watching those age-gated clips (which, due to "political correctness", have grown exponentially in their numbers; yet another Google ploy to grab your personal details, if you ask me); in my country (EU member), the last time I checked, Google wanted to send them a digital scan of your "proper" ID card so that they could "age-verify" your YT account ... The web, just like the real world, has turned into a really "bad place" - I'm despaired/depressed by both, TBH ... -
... Did you actually want to write "many years" ? AFAICR, WidevineCDM never worked in any official release Firefox version that supported Windows XP; the module itself lacks patented decoders and on Firefox it relies on WMF's ones (Vista SP2+PlatformUpdateSupplement and higher); yes, it would work in Google Chrome 49 (which itself bundles patented decoders), but support for XP in the module itself was removed soon after the demise of Chrome 49 (both it and FxESR 52.9.0 had support for WV v1.4.8.903[signed 20160709]); current versions of WV (4.10.xxxx.0) require at minimum Cr69, but this number is probably of little practical significance now, as most DRM services (websites) are designed to work in quite recent Chrome versions... If it's still desktop browsers on Windows we're talking about here, then WidevineCDM has always been limited to L3 there (software decryption, the weakest form of DRM protection); L2 (aka VMP) is a quite recent addition (to desktop browsers), I'd say not older than 2-3 yrs; as for L1 (H/W decryption) on a desktop Windows browser? Some Reddit posts mention it should be available on (Chr)Edge (via PlayReady 3.0) on Win11, but I'm not even sure this is correct; basically, for L1 DRM on Windows [10?] 11 you need a compatible GPU/CPU with TEE (decryption chip) and the latest (Netflix) app from the Windows App Store... For reference (though from 2.5yrs ago) : read this ; as a rule of thumb, WV L1 is restricted to mobile devices (phones/tablets), STBs and Smart TVs...
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... Actually, YOU CAN'T : https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/blob/main/docs/FAQ.md ... Same goes for Supermium and other, non-major-league, browsers; and the latest version of WidevineCDM, 4.10.2830.0, requires at least Win8 to be functional; and in Th/Sm, only the sites that do not enforce VMP will work (latest Sm-v126esr-r4 offers a kludge to re-enable WV on Win7, again ONLY for L3/non-VMP DRM services). Read above... This is ancient history ; the app/plugin hasn't been supported by Microsoft for close to a decade (off the top of my head, did not look it up) and Netflix have dropped the "Silverlight fallback" more than four years ago? ... No way; at any given time, only the latest WV release will work (which is v4.10.2830.0); planned releases are usually every 6 months (sooner, if "hacks" become publicly known); for 3-4 wks after a new release, the immediately previous one (v4.10.2710.0 currently) may also work... TL:DR For Netflix: You want Win8+ and a supported major browser (practically, this boils down to official Google Chrome & Mozilla Firefox) whose vendor has paid Google the hefty price of VMP signing ...
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... Thanks, but this on-line test has been already cited previously in the MSFN forums, even in this thread :
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... And at the time I post this, the expired certificate has been renewed : So, whatever means used to bypass the expired (previous) certificate should be revoked (as it affects the global browser behaviour, not just that specific site) ...
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... The separate standalone mpeg-dash streams are in a media format/container (iso6dash) that IS NOT compatible with old media players (such as mpv from back in 2015 ); when you download via yt-dl and a recent-ish build of ffmpeg is used, the separate media streams are muxed together into a standard iso MPEG4 container that has been supported for at least two decades... The 360p encode is itself by default packaged (and streamed) inside a "proper" MPEG4 container (with its mov atom placed in the beginning of the MP4 file) ...
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@S75, @reboot12 : Most evil/satanic Google have got the upper hand now, it appears; you can read about it here ; "potoken" is the name of their latest anti-downloader measure ; the WEB client fully enforces it now, so youtube-dl from back in August now gets the door ... I had better success with reboot12's video posing as a different device, not yet fully potoken-ed : youtube-dl -f 136+140 "nhPaWIeULKk" --user-agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Android 14)" => [youtube] nhPaWIeULKk: Downloading webpage [youtube] nhPaWIeULKk: Downloading API JSON WARNING: You have requested multiple formats but ffmpeg or avconv are not installed. The formats won't be merged. [dashsegments] Total fragments: 3 [download] Destination: Gorillaz - Stylo (Official Video)-nhPaWIeULKk.f136.mp4 [download] 100% of 28.23MiB in 00:24 [dashsegments] Total fragments: 1 [download] Destination: Gorillaz - Stylo (Official Video)-nhPaWIeULKk.m4a.f140.m4a [download] 100% of 4.67MiB in 00:05 (yes, I know about the missing ffmpeg.exe; this was just a test download with only the yt-dl v2024.08.07 nightly binary...)
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@Zorba the Geek Greetings ; all your "OneDrive" links inside this thread are not accessible here ; all redirect to a Microsoft login page now... E.g., your Feb 12th 2024 link in this comment does this for me: https://onedrive.live.com/download?resid=993BA94307E5CD88%21984&authkey=!APTkuAtsiWMQQNc => https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=162&ct=1728603475&rver=7.5.2205.0&wp=MBI_SSL_SHARED&wreply=https:%2F%2Fonedrive.live.com%2Fdownload%3Fresid%3D993BA94307E5CD88%2521984%26authkey%3D!APTkuAtsiWMQQNc&lc=1032&id=250206&cbcxt=sky&cbcxt=sky Can you help, please? Has the "authkey" expired? Are the packages no longer available? Thanks for any insight ...
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Greetings; yes, you're posting in the Supermium thread, so you must be using the Supermium browser ; but it would've helped greatly if you mentioned already from the beginning the specific version of Supermium used and the OS you're on ... As for Win XP (SP3?) x86, there have been several pending issues in the official Supermium tracker already: https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/940 https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/867 https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/797 https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/444 This appears to be an XP-exclusive issue... As for sourceforge, Supermium versions 121-r2, 122-r6, 124-r2 and 126-r3 (all 32-bit) DO NOT trigger here the cloudflare anti-bot protection ; all are "dirty" profiles, different to each other, with several extensions installed; OS is Vista SP2 x86... KafanMiniBrowser (Cr87) and 360EEv13.x (Cr86) BOTH trigger the CF "protection" and I can tell you it's practically IMPOSSIBLE to pass the challenge on those two browsers; in desperation, I tried a fresh new profile of KMB (with no extensions) and I eventually managed to pass the test only once after maybe twenty successive attempts; but it gets worse, because access to sourceforge.net is shortlived (despite the cf_clearance cookie expiring a year after ); once the browser session terminates, you're being blocked anew ... Given that recent Chromium versions on Win10 don't get the door, I used this extension https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/custom-useragent-string/lejiafennghcpgmbpiodgofeklkpahoe (v0.2.1 is the last MV2 one compatible with Cr86/87) to set a SSUAO for SF: and I can now access SF unobstructed ... NB: Both KMB and 360EEv13.x DO NOT send out CH by default (you have to enable #enable-experimental-web-platform-features for that first; and even then, this is an immature/alpha edition of the CH API). Can the link to this file of yours be made public, please? I suspect some Supermium default security setting might interfere there, if that "file" isn't palatable to Google's notion of "security" ...
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Salut ; since you are the party interested, i.e. the one in possession of an SSE-only CPU, you can "try" yourself whether the following route leads to somewhere: The CPython (py3.9) implementation used by nicolaasjan is a fork and recompile of a py3.9.x release by @cmalex , targeting his SSE-only processor; do note that this compile has special configuration that deviates slightly from the PSF's one, as I had discovered in the past myself when messing with it (e.g. pip wouldn't successfully install some modules, while the installation would be fine with the PSF compile). You don't need a yt-dlp_x86.exe binary per se; you can try to install yt-dlp as a Python module python -m pip install yt-dlp using the py3.9-win32-sse library; the above command will attempt to co-install all necessary dependencies; however, some of these contain binary parts (C/C++ extensions, they're the files with ".pyd" extension) that have been precompiled as wheel packages by their authors, not specifically targeting < SSE2 CPUs... As cmalex has done himself with some python modules he was after, these had to be also (forked/)recompiled locally on his target machine, to ensure no SSE2 instructions sneak in the compiled code; this only complicates things further (i.e. when python modules have to be compiled from source rather than installed via wheels); a similar approach would be to "try" and run yt-dlp directly as a python script, using, of course, the aforementioned py3.9-win32-sse compilation; again, the "requirements" must have been successfully installed, which is the real question here... (rant mode ON) Python coders of this era have no consideration at all for backwards compatibility; they'd like to only code in Python 3.20, if they could get their hands on it now, supposedly because it makes their lives "easier"; with the official PSF stance being "we only support what Microsoft supports", this practically means that Python projects will soon ONLY run under Win[10/]11, on H/W compatible with these OSes only ; to add insult to injury, with Win11 being 64-bit only, I have trouble already finding 32-bit compiles for many of the (open source) programs I want ... If it weren't for dirkf, who decided to go against the tide and tries single-handedly to keep youtube-dl code compatible with older Python versions (thus able to run on older Windows, too), things would've been already dead for XP/Vista[/Win7] yt-dl users... (rant mode OFF)
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... According to: https://pypi.org/project/pyinstaller/3.2.1/ ( "Programming Language" in the sidebar), pyinstaller==3.2.1 hasn't been tested to work on py>3.5 ...
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Doesn't seem to be limited to just NM28; when using the VORAPIS V3 userscript (in KMB[Cr87]+ViolentmonkeyBETA-2.25.1 here ), the loop playlist button can be enabled (highlighted), but, sadly, does not have the desired effect ; playback of the playlist ends with its last item (what happens next depends on how you have configured things...) ... The current YT GUI is a PITA to load and operate here in this 2008 Vista SP2 32-bit laptop (Core2Duo+iGPU+RAM=3GB) but, out of (perverse ) curiosity, I wanted to test this ; I used NHTPG's playlist posted previously in this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiW7NbkhbJ0&list=PL2ZucxOJLzfVRTHxcWt5TjQ2ZCRNjc6TM&index=1 (FYI, out of the 321 playlist items, only 295 are accessible in my location - rights issues...) The loop and shuffle playback buttons are behind a playlist "header", so not immediately visible; you seem to be able to select a "once more" playback of chosen playlist: or a continuous loop playback mode... In either case, when you reach the end of the playlist (NB: Autoplay must be enabled), you are presented with a (misleading) in-player dialogue pertaining to a YT suggested clip (not contained in the original playlist), but if you leave it be, the page auto-reloads and playback begins anew with the first item (index) of the list... -
... For Mozilla-based browsers capable of WebExtensions (MyPal68, St52, St55), especially on old and under-resourced H/W, I always come back to: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mobile-for-desktop/ This add-on has been mentioned before across various MSFN subforums, but personally (without a Google/YT account) I find that the "mobile YT" iteration is the one less "hungry" in my old 2008-era laptop ; of course, if you insist on >=1080p resolutions, "mobile YT" is not for you ... OT: It's too bad the developer hasn't come up with something similar for Chromium-based browsers...
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... From the linked homepage : ... thus innounpacker-setup.exe (of v1.9.5) won't run on XP ; hence the suggestion by its author, echoed by @we3fan here ; however, the German author has not yet updated the application to v1.9.5 (on purpose? ), as the zipped distribution is still on v1.9.4 ; since the CLI tool is XP-compatible (thanks @AstroSkipper ), one can use it (on XP) to unpack innounpacker-setup.exe and ascertain whether the main GUI executable, InnoUnpack.exe, of latest v1.9.5, can launch under XP SP3 x86 ... Name and surname corrected in original post ... Thanks for that, too; a freeware in its basic functions, a donationware if you want "advanced" features ; of notable mention the ability of the (third-party-hosted) installer to perform a "portable" installation ...
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... This is a generic Windows error produced when one tries to run a Windows executable which has a sub system version value inside its PE Header higher than the host OS the executable currently resides in; e.g., file "cpu-z_2.11-en.exe" has a value of "6.1": meaning launch will proceed on Win7 (SP1) and higher; thus, when that .EXE is double-clicked on NT 5.x (XP and its servers) and on NT 6.0 (Vista and its server) it will generate the error mentioned; however, this error doesn't tell the whole story on its own; you can try to lower the sub system version value (with special PE Header tools ) to match your current OS and then try anew; sometimes, you may be surprised ... Still, in this particular case it's the version of the InnoSetup (IS) script used to package the installer that is the real obstacle on Win < 7 (as already mentioned here and here ) ; when you can't successfully run the installer even after patching its PE Header, you may try to extract its payload instead (not needed, obviously, in the case of CPU-Z, since the author already provides zipped distributions ) ... Mind you, the most popular InnoSetup extracting tools (innounp.exe, innoextract.exe and GUIs containing them, like UniExtract2) don't (yet) support IS script versions 6.1+ : https://sourceforge.net/p/innounp/discussion/353235/thread/ef0e2c5c41/ Luckily, thanks to a compatriot of AstroSkipper's called Jürgen Rathlev, such a tool has recently been made available ; the CLI is called "innounp-unicode" and it's currently at version 1.72: https://github.com/jrathlev/InnoUnpacker-Windows-GUI/raw/master/innounp-1/bin/innounp-172.zip One can use the standalone CLI or use it inside a dedicated GUI, InnoUnpacker-WinGUI-v1.9.5 : https://www.rathlev-home.de/index-e.html?home-e.html#unpack Tip: If you're already a UniExtract2 user (like myself ), you can substitute the old v0.50 of innounp.exe contained inside it with the CLI of "innounp-unicode" ... Disclaimer: ALL tests were done on a Vista SP2 x86 machine, nowhere near an XP box at the moment ; test for yourself and report back...
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... The v126-r1 one was a "rushed" release only a few days after the previous 126-pre[2] release, just to fix a critical bug with NO SOUND output on XP machines (and pre[2] was released hours after the initial buggy pre[1] release, to fix an "empty UA" bug, that had many cites refusing to connect...).
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... People, sadly, continue to do so now with Supermium/Thorium 32-bit on 32-bit XP SP3 (PAE-patched, a configuration the vendor NEVER supported) and have the audacity to create "issues" in the official trackers: https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/846 IMHO, this type of users are beyond the point of realising they have a "serious problem" themselves...